Comments on: An Evangelical Manifesto http://jalash.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/an-evangelical-manifesto/ Heart. Soul. Mind. Strength. Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:32:55 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: mikerucker http://jalash.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/an-evangelical-manifesto/#comment-1070 mikerucker Mon, 12 May 2008 15:46:04 +0000 http://jalash.wordpress.com/?p=277#comment-1070 erik - is that just an easy alibi for Dobson - i.e., to garner tolerance points and say he's not signing it because of the white-bread group that drafted it? or do you think it runs deeper, and he wouldn't have signed it anyway if the group looked like a reborn rainbow coalition? mike rucker erik – is that just an easy alibi for Dobson – i.e., to garner tolerance points and say he’s not signing it because of the white-bread group that drafted it?

or do you think it runs deeper, and he wouldn’t have signed it anyway if the group looked like a reborn rainbow coalition?

mike rucker

]]> By: Erik http://jalash.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/an-evangelical-manifesto/#comment-1068 Erik Sun, 11 May 2008 23:40:53 +0000 http://jalash.wordpress.com/?p=277#comment-1068 Interestingly, James Dobson, one of the older, prominent faces of the evangelical right since the early 80's [along with (the late) Jerry Falwell, (the late) D. James Kennedy, Pat Robertson, etc] did NOT sign the evangelical manifesto due to the fact that there were no African-American pastor or theologians on the 70 person committee. He had other issues with it. Any one know any of these 'other' issues? Interestingly, James Dobson, one of the older, prominent faces of the evangelical right since the early 80’s [along with (the late) Jerry Falwell, (the late) D. James Kennedy, Pat Robertson, etc] did NOT sign the evangelical manifesto due to the fact that there were no African-American pastor or theologians on the 70 person committee. He had other issues with it. Any one know any of these ‘other’ issues?

]]> By: mike rucker http://jalash.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/an-evangelical-manifesto/#comment-1066 mike rucker Thu, 08 May 2008 15:01:04 +0000 http://jalash.wordpress.com/?p=277#comment-1066 i think i had some hesitations and misgivings before reading the document, but was actually quite impressed and invigorated after taking in the whole of what it addressed. i am glad they chose not to say that creationism and inerrancy were non-negotiables. for the first, there's very little biblical justification anymore behind whatever latest flavor of anti-natural selection is being put forward; for the latter, somehow we can admit that we can't prove the existence of God, but goshdarnit we have a golden egg this unprovable God laid right here. kind of stupid when you think about it ... not that thinking is a pre-requisite of course in any of these endeavors. more than anything, i was motivated and energized by the very positive nature of the piece - that it wasn't yet another "here's everything we're <i>against</i>" rant but an effort to make the gospel again a message of <i>good news</i>. American Christianity has lost this defining characteristic ever since it embraced the neo-con's Jesus bobble-head doll. perhaps one unintended benefit of the proposal is a clear opportunity to take this EM (Evangelical Manifesto) and align it with the other EM (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FEmergent-Manifesto-Hope-emersion-communities%2Fdp%2F080106807X%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1210257943%26sr%3D8-2&tag=mwc04-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325" rel="nofollow">Emergent Manifesto</a>) and finally get all our EM & EMs in a row without demonizing the other side. we can only hope... mike rucker fairburn, georgia, usa <a href="http://mikerucker.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">mikerucker.wordpress.com</a> i think i had some hesitations and misgivings before reading the document, but was actually quite impressed and invigorated after taking in the whole of what it addressed.

i am glad they chose not to say that creationism and inerrancy were non-negotiables. for the first, there’s very little biblical justification anymore behind whatever latest flavor of anti-natural selection is being put forward; for the latter, somehow we can admit that we can’t prove the existence of God, but goshdarnit we have a golden egg this unprovable God laid right here. kind of stupid when you think about it … not that thinking is a pre-requisite of course in any of these endeavors.

more than anything, i was motivated and energized by the very positive nature of the piece – that it wasn’t yet another “here’s everything we’re against” rant but an effort to make the gospel again a message of good news. American Christianity has lost this defining characteristic ever since it embraced the neo-con’s Jesus bobble-head doll.

perhaps one unintended benefit of the proposal is a clear opportunity to take this EM (Evangelical Manifesto) and align it with the other EM (Emergent Manifesto) and finally get all our EM & EMs in a row without demonizing the other side.

we can only hope…

mike rucker
fairburn, georgia, usa
mikerucker.wordpress.com

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